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Poll: Next worms game should be?
Another 3D one ?	2 users
Bring back 2D !	24 users
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RunT Statusless Send PM Posts: 2600 Threads: 106 Money: £29.56 (D) (+ Friend)	Ok, I kinda didn't know where to put this thread exactlly so I put it here. What do you think should be the next type of Worms game Team17 should do next? I personally vote another 2D one like W:A and WWP. They were the best and people play those online more than W3D. But this is just my opinion. What's yours? <p align="center">Ok, I kinda didn't know where to put this thread exactlly so I put it here. What do you think should be the next type of Worms game Team17 should do next? :? I personally vote another 2D one like W:A and WWP. They were the best and people play those online more than W3D. But this is just my opinion. What's yours? :? ________________
07.10.04 22:50 Post #1	[Hide Sig (10)] [Profile] [Quote]
Pilki-AKA-Gollum The power of the Ring Compels j00 Send PM Posts: 645 Threads: 38 WWP Clan: DNA Mood: Evil - sometimes Money: £1440.47 (D) (+ Friend)	Gotta be 2D. That way even people with crap computers can play a great game. Also there is more of a strategic feel with 2D. With W3D I was more thinking about aiming than strategy Gotta be 2D. That way even people with crap computers can play a great game. Also there is more of a strategic feel with 2D. With W3D I was more thinking about aiming than strategy ________________ The meaning of life is.... Forty-two!
08.10.04 09:39 Post #2	[Free Motorola RAZR V3!] [Hide Sig (11)] [Profile] [Quote]
Falkra Holidays tomorrow, back here and on WN. Send PM Posts: 1181 Threads: 20 WA Clan: below WWP Clan: lXl, Ac2N Mood: lazy ^^ Money: £909.16 (D) Inc. Tax: 10% User Tax: -14% Ttl. Tax: -4% (+ Friend)	Same here, i think 2D is very nice, and roping in 3D, well... People like roping, a lot of games use it and this is really 2D stuff. In addition, yes it rusn on almost al comps without eating too much cpu/gfx power, and the graphics are sweet, and W:A's high resolution feature helped. But if i had something to say to t17 if they want something new to the gfx engine, it would be to use a 2d-3d hybrid engine, like un Duke Nukem Manhattan project (platform game). The engine used 3D effects, but the Z coordinates were only used to zoom, i mean it was exactly like a 2D game but using 3D directX sprites, which was nice looking and managed to have a modern look and the advantages of 2D games. A 3D engine that used almost only X-Y coordinates. Some effects like explosions would be bettered using this system, without betraying IMO, the game. And the sounds need to be bettered, (i find the rope's "wheeeet-boing wheeeet-boing pretty annoying). But map making would be a real pain, so 2D has its very good points, everything in W:A & WWP is tweakable... Same here, i think 2D is very nice, and roping in 3D, well... People like roping, a lot of games use it and this is really 2D stuff. In addition, yes it rusn on almost al comps without eating too much cpu/gfx power, and the graphics are sweet, and W:A's high resolution feature helped. But if i had something to say to t17 if they want something new to the gfx engine, it would be to use a 2d-3d hybrid engine, like un Duke Nukem Manhattan project (platform game). The engine used 3D effects, but the Z coordinates were only used to zoom, i mean it was exactly like a 2D game but using 3D directX sprites, which was nice looking and managed to have a modern look and the advantages of 2D games. A 3D engine that used almost only X-Y coordinates. Some effects like explosions would be bettered using this system, without betraying IMO, the game. And the sounds need to be bettered, (i find the rope's "wheeeet-boing wheeeet-boing pretty annoying). But map making would be a real pain, so 2D has its very good points, everything in W:A & WWP is tweakable... ________________ Artwork by the wishmaster.
08.10.04 09:47 Post #3	Last edited: 08.10.04 09:48 (Falkra - 1 times)	[My maps] [Hide Sig (4)] [Profile] [Quote]
routine_error Statusless Send PM Posts: 1081 Threads: 25 Money: £6.36 (D) (+ Friend)	I would've voted for two dimensional, but how could they improve on what they already have? and if they did, they could scrap the idea to combine wwp and wa in a patch since there'd be a newer, better one... if there was, i mean. I would've voted for two dimensional, but how could they improve on what they already have? and if they did, they could scrap the idea to combine wwp and wa in a patch since there'd be a newer, better one... if there was, i mean.
08.10.04 10:37 Post #4	Last edited: 08.10.04 10:37 (routine_error - 1 times)	[Hide Sig (1)] [Profile] [Quote]
Falkra Holidays tomorrow, back here and on WN. Send PM Posts: 1181 Threads: 20 WA Clan: below WWP Clan: lXl, Ac2N Mood: lazy ^^ Money: £909.16 (D) Inc. Tax: 10% User Tax: -14% Ttl. Tax: -4% (+ Friend)	Quoted :: routine_error I would've voted for two dimensional, but how could they improve on what they already have? and if they did, they could scrap the idea to combine wwp and wa in a patch since there'd be a newer, better one... if there was, i mean. You are right, it would be difficult to improve it, unlike Worms3D's engine, IMHO of player (i gave it a try but didn't like it). Now everything new uses 3D, apart from some rare strategy games. People associate 2d games and "old things", most of them think that without 3D, games are not good looking and/or fun. Marketing did a great job making us think 3D graphics are almost something obligatory. : / [quote=routine_error] I would've voted for two dimensional, but how could they improve on what they already have? and if they did, they could scrap the idea to combine wwp and wa in a patch since there'd be a newer, better one... if there was, i mean. [/quote] You are right, it would be difficult to improve it, unlike Worms3D's engine, IMHO of player (i gave it a try but didn't like it). Now everything new uses 3D, apart from some rare strategy games. People associate 2d games and "old things", most of them think that without 3D, games are not good looking and/or fun. Marketing did a great job making us think 3D graphics are almost something obligatory. : / ________________ Artwork by the wishmaster.
08.10.04 11:09 Post #5	Last edited: 08.10.04 11:10 (Falkra - 1 times)	[My maps] [Hide Sig (4)] [Profile] [Quote]
Pilki-AKA-Gollum The power of the Ring Compels j00 Send PM Posts: 645 Threads: 38 WWP Clan: DNA Mood: Evil - sometimes Money: £1440.47 (D) (+ Friend)	In my opinion I would go for a game for its gameplay, not by its graphics. In my opinion I would go for a game for its gameplay, not by its graphics. ________________ The meaning of life is.... Forty-two!
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routine_error Statusless Send PM Posts: 1081 Threads: 25 Money: £6.36 (D) (+ Friend)	we're not specifically talking about graphics, we're talking about dimensions. graphics are obviously not what makes a game. well, at the same time, graphics are all that makes a game. also, there's a difference between decent graphics and bad graphics. bad graphics can cause bad gameplay. we're not specifically talking about graphics, we're talking about dimensions. graphics are obviously not what makes a game. well, at the same time, graphics are all that makes a game. also, there's a difference between decent graphics and bad graphics. bad graphics can cause bad gameplay.
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Pilki-AKA-Gollum The power of the Ring Compels j00 Send PM Posts: 645 Threads: 38 WWP Clan: DNA Mood: Evil - sometimes Money: £1440.47 (D) (+ Friend)	yeah. In this case current Worms games have had good graphics in 2d. I doubt they can do much else with the graphics except better graphics fx i.e explosions etc yeah. In this case current Worms games have had good graphics in 2d. I doubt they can do much else with the graphics except better graphics fx i.e explosions etc ________________ The meaning of life is.... Forty-two!
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RunT Statusless Send PM Posts: 2600 Threads: 106 Money: £29.56 (D) (+ Friend)	Quoted :: Falkra But if i had something to say to t17 if they want something new to the gfx engine, it would be to use a 2d-3d hybrid engine, like un Duke Nukem Manhattan project (platform game). That sounds like a good idea. A 3D game, but on a 2D platform. It would certaintly make gameplay alot better. I'd buy it if it was like that. Well, I'd buy it anyway cause it's a worms game [quote=Falkra] But if i had something to say to t17 if they want something new to the gfx engine, it would be to use a 2d-3d hybrid engine, like un Duke Nukem Manhattan project (platform game). [/quote] <p align="center">That sounds like a good idea. A 3D game, but on a 2D platform. It would certaintly make gameplay alot better. I'd buy it if it was like that. Well, I'd buy it anyway cause it's a worms game :lol: </p> ________________
08.10.04 13:25 Post #9	[Hide Sig (10)] [Profile] [Quote]
Falkra Holidays tomorrow, back here and on WN. Send PM Posts: 1181 Threads: 20 WA Clan: below WWP Clan: lXl, Ac2N Mood: lazy ^^ Money: £909.16 (D) Inc. Tax: 10% User Tax: -14% Ttl. Tax: -4% (+ Friend)	Platform was the type of game DNMP was, in fact, they used a 3D engine to render a game that could have been 2D. Platform was the type of game DNMP was, in fact, they used a 3D engine to render a game that could have been 2D. ________________ Artwork by the wishmaster.
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C1 Looking For Status Send PM Posts: 0 Threads: 0 Money: £0.18 (D) (+ Friend)	A worms game that looks kinda like the starcraft graphics would be cool too tho. It's kinda 2d/3d ish. A worms game that looks kinda like the starcraft graphics would be cool too tho. It's kinda 2d/3d ish.
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Thnikkaman Hey Megalomaniac Send PM Posts: 1212 Threads: 21 Mood: Three noses?! Money: £1523.42 (D) User Tax: -3% (+ Friend)	Yeah. The very word "Starcraft" makes me think of "cool," all those days I spent getting pink-eye from rarely blinking at the screen ^^ (BTW, my screen name is UltraPeepi although I usually go on by request) Anyway, I think they could still have 2d graphics and still kill a bit of memory. Real time elements, awesome shading, a huge weapon roster, tons and tons of languages/facial expressions, maybe even different skins and stuff (8-bit, slugs, something like that). And something I've wanted to be in a Worms game for a while, create-a-worm! We could make ourselves a good little BTP team Yeah. The very word "Starcraft" makes me think of "cool," all those days I spent getting pink-eye from rarely blinking at the screen ^^ (BTW, my screen name is UltraPeepi although I usually go on by request) Anyway, I think they could still have 2d graphics and still kill a bit of memory. Real time elements, awesome shading, a huge weapon roster, tons and tons of languages/facial expressions, maybe even different skins and stuff (8-bit, slugs, something like that). And something I've wanted to be in a Worms game for a while, create-a-worm! We could make ourselves a good little BTP team :) ________________ Av drawn by Hunta Killa, outlined and colored by me.
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Pilki-AKA-Gollum The power of the Ring Compels j00 Send PM Posts: 645 Threads: 38 WWP Clan: DNA Mood: Evil - sometimes Money: £1440.47 (D) (+ Friend)	And perhaps different factions of that team. I like the idea of worm customisation. Mind you having too much weapons can sometimes make it too easy. The classic BnG is still on the go with minimal weapons, also proper. A proper online BTP clan wud b great! And perhaps different factions of that team. I like the idea of worm customisation. Mind you having too much weapons can sometimes make it too easy. The classic BnG is still on the go with minimal weapons, also proper. A proper online BTP clan wud b great! ________________ The meaning of life is.... Forty-two!
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xDBKxStickman Looking For Status Send PM Posts: 11 Threads: 2 WA Clan: DBK WWP Clan: DBK Money: £92.25 (D) (+ Friend)	Well, the 2D Game style should come back. It is pretty good. The 3D version sux. Where is the good old Worms style there? Well, the 2D Game style should come back. It is pretty good. The 3D version sux. Where is the good old Worms style there?
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C1 Looking For Status Send PM Posts: 0 Threads: 0 Money: £0.18 (D) (+ Friend)	3D is "interesting". I wouldn't say it's better than 2d, but it's still fun. I played the demo at my friends. The bazooka sucks though =/ . It's waaaay too sensitive. 3D is "interesting". I wouldn't say it's better than 2d, but it's still fun. I played the demo at my friends. The bazooka sucks though =/ . It's waaaay too sensitive.
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