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Mozilla Firebird is the most advanced browser I've seen. It is just simply excellent. Sure it doesnt have an email client, but whatever.

The extentions for this thing are awesome. Especially the web development compaonant :D

Let me just list some things this componant can do:
View source of forms, including hidden feilds, and edit them w/o leaving the page.
Convert form POSTs to GETs
Disable All Images
Outline every block level element on a page
Validate CSS, HTML, etc. (btw BTP doesnt pass html validation- no doctype :D)
Resize the browser to a screen resolution (640x480 = gay :D)
Outline images w/o alt tags
Outline images w/o title tags
Replace Images with Alt tags :D
Cookie Information
TOns of other stuff

Now some other components:
see live http headers :D
linky: highlight text, right click, hit open all links in new tab
and a ton of other stuff.

If your a serois web designer u must try this out :D

Oh and did i mention I have a plugin which enables mouse gestures? Take THAT opera! :D
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Mozilla Firebird is the most advanced browser I've seen. It is just simply excellent. Sure it doesnt have an email client, but whatever.


heh, readme will be happy then. Are they not going to build in an email client as a seperate module-y thing?


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Let me just list some things this componant can do:
View source of forms, including hidden feilds, and edit them w/o leaving the page.
Convert form POSTs to GETs


good for hacking, then


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Disable All Images
Outline every block level element on a page
Validate CSS, HTML, etc. (btw BTP doesnt pass html validation- no doctype :D)
Resize the browser to a screen resolution (640x480 = gay :D)
Outline images w/o alt tags
Outline images w/o title tags
Replace Images with Alt tags :D
Cookie Information

Opera can do pretty much all of this, + email client, more stuff like the block elements and disabling tables and hiding non-linking images. :P except maybe that outlining stuff, I don't know what you mean.
I know btp doesn't pass. even if there were a doctype specified it still doesn't pass. I tried forcing one on the validator and nope, I haven't been too picky with html, I've tried it in the major browsers, and it works, so it's fine by me, maybe not by SargeMcCluck, who like to use lynx, but I think it works well with that too, haven't tried.


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linky: highlight text, right click, hit open all links in new tab

Opera has a list of all the links on a page. you can select em all at once and choose to open them in new tabs. I'm not gonna try it on BTP, there'd be too many. heh,



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If your a serois web designer u must try this out :D


Yeh. serious* :P


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Oh and did i mention I have a plugin which enables mouse gestures? Take THAT opera! :D


ah that's why I thought NS7 had them, it was firebird that I was thinking of. I don't see what the rivalry against opera is here.

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Heh the opera rivalry i'm just making fun of :D
BTW, did you buy it so you dont have the ads at least?


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good for hacking, then

indeed

[Are they not going to build in an email client as a seperate module-y thing?]
I dont think so, ffirebird was supposed to be a fast browser w/o extra stuff like email clients.


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Opera can do pretty much all of this, + email client, more stuff like the block elements and disabling tables and hiding non-linking images.

Maybe I should have tried it first before I mentioned this stuff :D


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outlining stuff


Its as if you put border=1px dotted, then a diffrent color, on every tag.
Helps you see how the order flows, how u can cheange it, etc.

And I know what you mean about the validator - those ppl are way to stict, even in HTML 4.01 transitional :D Did you know that they have replaced script language="" with script type=""? That is absurd :D
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Heh the opera rivalry i'm just making fun of :D
BTW, did you buy it so you dont have the ads at least?


nah, you don't even notice the adds, it's in a bit of toolbar that you never use, and really isn't obtrusive at-all, occasionally I've actually clicked it because I was interested.

And nope, didn't hear about the script thing, does sound kinda stupid. heh

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Well you were right about a mail addon :D
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/index.html

the W3 is really whacked out on the new HTML standards - the I, U, S, and B tags are now depricated... blah blah blah... its all rubbish. Did I mention that we shouldnt use the font tag unless we specify a class with it? :/ :D
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If you're using Moz now (full suite or Firebird) then you might wanna check out http://readme.resource-locator.com/mozilla.htm

It's fully XHTML with no presentational markup - all done with CSS so i can change the appearance completely with using only a different stylesheet (use the stylesheet switcher plugin for FB) It may not fully validate on some pages cos i haven't got around to removing all the target attributes or making it so the validator doesn't get the crappy IE version.

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