BlameThePixel!

For so long I have been making websites with click buttons at the top. Me and split have typed out our html perfectly, it just looks ugly now because there's no CSS and whatnot. But, since it's divided up in frames, and if theres too much text in one frame? That one single frame will make a scrollbar. I don't want that, we want only the whole site itself to have a scrollbar. Not just inside one little frameset box.

To understand 100% what I'm talking about, download this.

Put all the files in one folder(directory) and open main.html

And yes, I've tried the thing, but yet again, only works on one frame, that code is in there? But I typed "null" just to disable it in a "easy changable" way.

For so long I have been making websites with click buttons at the top. Me and split have typed out our html perfectly, it just looks ugly now because there's no CSS and whatnot. But, since it's divided up in frames, and if theres too much text in one frame? That one single frame will make a scrollbar. I don't want that, we want only the whole site itself to have a scrollbar. Not just inside one little frameset box. To understand 100% what I'm talking about, download <a href='http://zippy.knd.org.uk/random/newsitebeta.rar' target='_blank'>this</a>. Put all the files in one folder(directory) and open main.html And yes, I've tried the <no scrolling=whatever> thing, but yet again, only works on one frame, that code is in there? But I typed "null" just to disable it in a "easy changable" way.
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You simply can't have one scrollbar for the whole site if you are using frames. The frame with too much text gets the scroll bar because that is the stuff that needs scrolling, it doesn't make sense to scroll anything else in other frames.

If you want the whole site to have a scrollbar, don't use frames.

http://knd.org.uk/files/main.zip
So far this is gonna be the left menu... but i dunno if it needs css scripts, or what to make it so that there can be a centered table that doesnt apear under yet centerd separating the menu items like... 5 spaces,(depending on the height of the table)

do you have anywhere you can host this? I'm not really in the mood for downloading and unzipping a website so i can debug html issues, but if it was handy i would prolly take a look.

If you want the one scrollbar to scroll both the menu and the main content you could probably use some hideous JavaScript to do it.

You'd be much better off without framesets if you want the menu to scroll. In fact if you don't have dynamic hosting (SSIs or PHP, etc), then the best idea would be to use an iframe like this:

http://www.blamethepixel.com/bloopy/newsite1.zip

This means that you can load the menu from the same file for every page. You could load the header in an iframe too. You only need to change the length of the menu iframe if the menu gets longer.

Also your menu looks completely different in IE than it does Firefox, hideous

Also close all your font tags!
You had:
\n\n
But it really should be:
\n\n

umm yeah ignore the "<?PHP"

You can also use modular pages by this script:

http://knd.org.uk/files/newsitemodular.zip

Follow the instructions in readme.txt

Might as well get this out of the way too, how come my CSS works in IE but not firefox. Yes I know this is a common issue. But one thing on my css worked for firefox and that's it.

Might as well get this out of the way too, how come my CSS works in IE but not firefox. Yes I know this is a common issue. But one thing on my css worked for firefox and that's it.
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Even I know this, you have to code it so it supports Firefox
Am I right or wrong?

Right, because we will be the most who will visit his website and the majority of us here uses FireFox

Runt=no. I was just doing all this shit at split's house and the CSS worked perfect.

Runt=no. I was just doing all this shit at split's house and the CSS worked perfect.
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No, you have to code it so it supports IE, Firefox does most CSS right, IE gets all the important things wrong.

If your CSS doesn't work in firefox then it's got to be pretty bad CSS, tbh. :p

Set in your web a message for convince the people to get firefox, its really annoying code the CSS just for a really screwed up browser

zippy to disable scrolling in the frame u need to type scrolling="no" not null

and for a user thats even more annoying than a dodgy looking site - one that tells you what to do.

I reckon the css problem is prolly to do with mime types, altho i think FF now falls back onot text/plain types for CSS as well so i could be wrong.

Man it was just a suggestion, I have been in many sites which always says the same: "get firefox, this page is really bad seen with IE"