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"This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that
finish last, that never become more than friends, that
endure hours of whining and *****ing about what
***holes guys are, while disproving the very point.
This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a
shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to
tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and
give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently
outside the changing room at department stores. This
is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how
cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends
are at the appropriate moment, because they know most
girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of
the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes,
with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who
respect a girlā€™s every facet, from her privacy to her
theology to her clothing style.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk,
bewildered female friends back from parties and never
take advantage once theyā€™re at her door, for the guys
who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the
rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who
know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them
out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules
in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys
who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow
donā€™t end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys
who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated,
for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and
unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on
your cell phone, and when you called her back, she
spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two
sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And
even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and
a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she
shouldnā€™t worry about it. This is for that time she
interrupted the best killing spree youā€™d ever
orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that
romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the
most repulsive person in the world. And even though
you thought it was immature and you had nothing
against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and
helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around
the floor. This is also for that time she didnā€™t have
a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing
ā€œseriousā€ between the two of you, she dragged you to a
party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and
she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit
of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: ā€œoh,
but weā€™re just friends!ā€ And even though you were
invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego,
you went anyways. Because youā€™re nice like that.

The nice guys donā€™t often get credit where credit is
due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys donā€™t
seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I
could logically explain this trend, but I canā€™t. From
what I have observed on campus and what I have learned
from talking to friends at other schools and in the
workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many
girls are just illogical, manipulative *****es. Many
of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but
when presented with such a specimen, they say
irrational, confusing things such as ā€œoh, heā€™s too
nice to dateā€ or ā€œhe would be a good boyfriend but
heā€™s not for meā€ or ā€œhe already puts up with so much
from me, I couldnā€™t possibly ask him out!ā€ or the most
frustrating of all: ā€œno, it would ruin our
friendship.ā€ Yet, they continue to lament the lack of
datable men in the world, and they expect their
too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and
apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys,
girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I
canā€™t figure out why the connection breaks down
between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what
they do (Iā€™m going to sleep with this complete ***
now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the
nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesnā€™t last
forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out
of that train of thought and realize they should be
dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The
tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier,
finding the ones that are single.

So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to
all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know
youā€™re sick of hearing yourself described as
ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the
world needs your patience in the department store,
your holding open of doors, your party escorting
services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty
smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you
tolerate, for all the situations where you are the
faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my
acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You
do have credibility in this society, and your well
deserved vindication is coming."

27.10.04 13:11
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:D go nice guys i'd like to think im nice but i'm not that nice (truthfully)

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Every word of that was astonishing and nothing but the truth. A true tribute.

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I saw that on the WotM forums a few months ago. And I still agree to it. Now we just need a toasting emote ;).
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ugh, that post reminded me of all the stuff I gotta listen to from a few of my friends (one in particular). no more of this thread, it reminds me of all the stuff I've listened to.

(edited to not sound quite so mean)

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Quoted :: Akuryou13

ugh, that post reminded me of all the crap I listen to, and help my friends through, when they're being retarded, and over-reacting about their bfs! no more of this toast stuff, I need a new thread, that won't make me remember all that gunk.

Thats cold

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not that I hate helping her, I just do it a LOT (she's got a lot of problems in her life), so reading stuff like this toast kinda gives me a headache, reminding me of all the things I've helped her, and others through.

admittedly, the post DOES sound a lot meaner than I meant it to:|

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Ah, *raises glass*

*is a nice guy*

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thats me down to a tee. nice speech.

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Avast, 'tis a fine day to be sure.

very well put, it did seem like J would be the one to post it as he his a "nice guy" (no offence or anything) :(

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well, I'm sure plenty of us are nice guys, and it's not that hard to know if you are one or not, so there's no shame in admitting it, unless you're bragging about it.....like me, I admit it, but I mourn it (not really) :roll:

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That was truely buitiful *clap clap clap* loL im probably the only one who read that whole thing :P
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Couldn't agree more to that.

*raises glass*

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An image!
i'm a nice guy.

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